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Tuesday May Thomas – An Interview on Straight Talk Radio with Chuck Gallagher

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Straight Talk Radio – a radio interview with Tuesday May Thomas.

Tired of traditional talk? People pontificating about this or that? The left or the right? Sometimes the truth is just off lost in the noise. Having learned life lessons the hard way, Chuck Gallagher, international speaker and author, cuts through the noise to share truth through transparency!

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Now, here’s your host, Chuck Gallagher.

CHUCK: And it is great to be with you today. I was listening to the introduction and I heard the line, “Sometimes the truth is just lost in the noise,” and I asked myself the question, as I heard that, how much of today ended up being noise? How much of it was life happening, demands, calls, text, emails, social media? How much noise took place and how much of the day did I actually spend focusing on living?

That caused me to really think as the show begins that focusing on what is happening right now is that experience of living as opposed sometimes to the noise that we get caught up in and the challenges that take place. For those of you that are regular listeners to the show, you know that my bent, although we will talk about all kinds of things on this show, tends to focus back to the fact that we are spiritual beings having a human experience, although as a human being we tend to believe that the experience we have is only our experience and sometimes we forget about that connectivity and that connectedness we have with other people. Those things that can happen in life that, well, unintentional but sometimes surprising because we don’t anticipate them or have that crystal ball, so to speak, to be able to see where our life journey may be going.

I’m really lucky. It’s fun to be a radio show host because you get the opportunity to really connect with a lot of very unique and interesting people. Today my guest, even though this is airing on a Monday, is Tuesday May Thomas, and, Tuesday, that’s a cool name! I just think that is so neat. I have to start off with this real simple and dumb question, were you born on a Tuesday?

TUESDAY: You know, I was expected to be born on a Tuesday, but I was born on a Friday in the month of May and somewhere in the middle of the doctors giving my mother my expectation date, she decided that Tuesday was the coolest name and that no matter when I was born, she would name me Tuesday, and hence I was born in May, so I got Tuesday May Thomas.

CHUCK: Oh, that is so cool! Some of us have the dubious distinction of being named after our relatives and so forth and there is a lot of power that goes along with the name, but that really is kind of cool. You’ve got really an interesting and neat story. Tuesday has written a book. I’m going to hold it up. I know that for those of you on the radio, you can’t see it. For those of you that might be seeing this via YouTube, the book is Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. I love the cover, by the way.

TUESDAY: Thank you!

CHUCK: I think the cover– Yeah, I love the cover. I think it really is cool. But this book is a fascinating read of your life journey up to this point, and, of course, for those of you that might be seeing Tuesday on video, she is a lovely young lady, so there are many books I know ahead as you journey on your, as you put it, spiritual apprenticeship. But let’s start off with a little bit of background about you. Tell us, from your perspective, what motivated you to write the book.

TUESDAY: I tell you, as you read Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice, you will learn that I aligned with a mystical teacher and she informed me of so much vast information regarding the metaphysical realm of duality of reality that exists beyond the physical form and I actually became a little obsessed. I created my own romance with trying very difficultly or very hard to understand and how to comprehend what lies beyond the physical realm. I wanted to contain it and be able to put it down into words and share the information with others. And really, it’s about that inner connection that you were talking about earlier, Chuck, and that invisible realm that exists of all consciousness and connection and the means through which, the highway of thread lines, of interconnection that we all connect through. I wanted so badly to harness that and to give it a voice.

Along my journey, though, I realized there was a lot of my own personal healing that had to take place and my whole life I’ve always had an issue with expressing myself, with finding my voice, so it’s interesting that now I have this platform to speak in and I found that really what’s been a lifesaver was being able to journal, to write, to sing, to express my truth. When I was a child, I felt that I did not have a voice. I felt that the world was a very scary place to be in because of what I was told by my family, my friends, my relatives, and I felt betrayed by life. I felt unloved and I felt very, very afraid of really expanding, so I shrunk.

I didn’t have friends to really express or to sort to exchange information or ideas with and I tapped into a world of invisibility. At the beginning of the book I talk about my friends, The Invisibles, which are a bunch of invisible entities that I actually invited into my room and would assemble a little sort of teacher area where I would take notes and sort of share with these Invisibles in amongst my stuffed animals, information that I cannot remember now. I’m sure if I was hypnotized or something, I could delve back, but I had such a strong connection with something that was outside of things that I could literally see and feel. I felt like that there was no world for me here and whatever I saw or tapped into, I didn’t like it and it really caused me to fear what being alive was. So I tapped into a realm that was beyond the physical.

Over my life, I– I’m sorry, go ahead, yes.

CHUCK: No, let me ask you a question. In that process, obviously this journey started fairly young, so go back to that young age and what was taking place in life, if you can share, what was taking place in life that made you feel unloved, that made you feel like you needed to shrink and that you didn’t have that voice? What was that life experience?

TUESDAY: You know, I felt unloved by my mother, honestly. I was given information by other family members that made me be afraid of being a woman or a girl in the world, that made me fear the energy of men and sexuality, because I kind of came into this lifetime without the ability to speak up, but with a very brave and compassionate heart. This is what caused my confusion is I would trust, I would be so open to everyone everywhere and yet I would be taken advantage of. I had sexual experiences which I feel so many of us do in our very early ages, like from five to ten, and even maybe beyond, that can really impact us and if we don’t know– I was never told or given information or tools when I was younger of how to navigate if you’re having a sexual experience in your youth and how to create healthy boundaries for yourself, let alone stick up for yourself.

This sort of created these predicaments that I would get into with my so-called friend which really opened me up into my sexuality. I’d think, “Maybe, I don’t know, everything really is in alignment with the highest good,” but back for many years I always felt like, man, I was opened up way too early to a world of information that I think I could have been a little more protected or been given some tools and told, “You can use your voice to create healthy boundaries to say no, to learn how to respect yourself.” This created this whole grid if you will for my whole life to go along where I feared men, I feared feeling beautiful or attractive or drawing attention to myself. I feared my own sex and sexuality and expressing it or even feeling it what that might feel like. I was afraid to express myself. I was bullied as a child in school. I gained weight. I think because of the sexual experiences I was enduring while I was a youth and not being able to express my emotional confusion or frustration, I ate and I gained weight and I was really with a lot of weight gain, and I would lose weight over and over. I was bullied, manipulated. The wave just crushed me over and over again and I thought, “God, this world sucks! Get me out of here.” [chuckles]

CHUCK: I have to ask this question. As we explore Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice, it’s interesting to me, and I’ve got a very dear friend who was sexually abused as a child, a female, so I have to ask the question, because of your gender, do you tend to find or believe that it’s more apt for a female to be sexually abused and to experience some of those challenges that you experienced as a child so that you would, again, shrink and not use your voice, because as a child you are not taught how to?

TUESDAY: Right. Yeah, I think it’s interesting. I feel that the more this conversation happens and the more I share intimately with friends and loved ones, I find out that it’s across the board both male and females almost equally go through a similar experience whether it’s someone in the family, an uncle, a stepfather, the mom’s boyfriend, with the son, the daughter that there’s a spectrum of what we can say inappropriate circumstances and experience that can become right in certain situations, and it is very, very interesting. It almost seems that 90%, and I’m kind of pulling that out of thin air, but the people that I’ve spoken to have had these experiences and we’re all marked with this from a very early age and that creates these lenses of perception of how we move in the world or how we react or shrink or expand our energy.

CHUCK: It’s interesting as you say that because the conversation that we’re having is live and in the moment. It is not as if this is canned or staged, so I don’t know what you’re going to say or you don’t know the questions that I’m going to ask, but the one thing that I’m absolutely finding is it’s a fascinating conversation. Now, as we begin this, I’ve got music in the background that says, “Okay, it is time for our first break.” This is Chuck Gallagher. This is Straight Talk Radio and my guest is Tuesday May Thomas. She is the author of Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. We’ll be right back, you want to stick with us. The story is fascinating.

[Commercial break]

CHUCK: This is Chuck Gallagher with Straight Talk Radio and we are back with Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. Tuesday May Thomas is my guest. We started exploring, Tuesday, your background and kind of the motivation that got you to the place where you wrote this book. I have to say to you and it’s kudos, congratulations to you because I’ve talked with a lot of people who have said, “I just can’t find my voice.” For those of us who don’t seem to have a problem and perhaps talk too much…

[Tuesday laughs]

CHUCK: It is incredibly powerful when someone moves from shrinkage to expansion and to be able to find that voice and to allow that voice to express and know the power that’s associated with that. You may not know who will listen to it, and I certainly [14:06] the show, but yet you know that whomever needs to hear the message will hear that. Coming from a background of abuse as a child at some point you said in our very first segment that you connected with someone that helped you see a realm that was beyond. What was the story? How did you get from, and I’m going to use my term now, shrinking Violet to someone that could help you enliven and open up to a different dimension?

TUESDAY: Okay. So, I’m going to backtrack a little bit.

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: I have, we were sharing during the break, it’s so funny because while I was I never able to speak up to bullies or to someone I felt was taking advantage of me, yet when I felt the call to, I could sing a song.

CHUCK: Okay.

TUESDAY: So I always had that voice inside of me and I think that’s the thread that kind of helped me gather more courage and more courage to speak up. So I wrote something here that I just want to tie into what we’re saying. I found my power through finding my voice as I aligned with my mystical teacher. “Through finding my voice I further learned that my voice was interconnected to a universal system that responds to my words.” I realized that everything is alive and that that world when I was a child that I felt so intimately connected to as a youth really does exist, that there is something going on in the space in between of what appears in our third dimension.

Quite literally my teacher showed us so much, but ultimately it has to do with self-love and being a conscious co-creator. If you think about it, we say stuff all day every day and if we wrote on a chalkboard, if every sentence we thought and every sentence we spoke was written on a chalkboard and at the end of the day you went and you saw what you thought and you said, you’d be like, “Oh, my Gosh!” I’m sure we would have raised a bunch of things.

CHUCK: Absolutely.

TUESDAY: Right? We’d just be left with maybe the most positive or powerful or self-affirming sort of things that helped lift us up in spirit. What I learned with my teachers, if we can put our attention away from focusing on what’s wrong or what’s negative and really just steer and come into further affirmation of what is positive, of what is in alignment, of what your strengths are that you innately have, then what that is connected to is an infinite realm of information that can give you even more strength, or more talent, or more gifts as you’re ready to connect with them.

CHUCK: Let me ask this question. As I hear you say that, let me make sure I say this correctly, when you are able to find your voice or you are able to express it more, as that thread connected you, you found that your voice connected with a larger system, your voice then allowed the larger system to activate to bring more consciousness to you and to bring you a greater voice. Is that accurate?

TUESDAY: Yeah. I love hearing it regurgitated and re-communicated and it’s so interesting because my whole journey is about this voice. Sometimes we feel like, “God, I should be able to do this interview and be sharper, and cleaner, and more cool, and calm, and collected,” but it’s the constant initiation and that’s where the power is; it’s like stepping up into it and I learned with my teacher that in using our voice that those thoughts that we think, the words that we speak have so much value, they have so much potency and it’s like a currency. Every thought I think is not only in turn connecting me to the thoughts that everyone else is thinking that have a similar frequency, a similar vibration, but it’s also pulling those thoughts and that energy to me. So if I connect in a positive, affirmation way and say like, “I am strong enough. I am good enough. I can do this. I got this. I’m going to trust, I’m going to put it in God’s hands, whatever it will be,” that’s going to connect me with that faith, with that strengths and it’s going to interconnect me with everyone else that’s like on that energy level, that’s putting energy into that pipeline, so to speak, into that grid. I’m going to connect into it and it’s going to connect into me, versus I connected to limiting behaviors, thoughts or beating myself up. I’m going to connect with all that other strata that exist in the universe. One can nourish me and one can really starve me.

CHUCK: It’s interesting that you say that. I absolutely believe what you’re saying. I experience that, and I’m not say, by the way, that I’m a spiritual guru by the stretch of imagination, but I do think that it’s fascinating that what we speak and how we feel and how we communicate that does in fact connect us. I had a good friend say to me one time, she said, “You’re the golden child,” and I’m like, “What are you talking about?” She says, “You just say something and something happens,” and she said, “You know, it just seems like you’re so lucky.” But I expect to be lucky. I expect that I’m good, you know? You are right; how you feel about yourself internally connects you into the power grid and if you’ve got a 110 connection, you’re only going to get 110 volts. If you’ve got a 220 connection, you’re going to get 220, but you have to be willing to be whichever that is.

TUESDAY: Absolutely. I like to think about the yin-yang and even though the old I think representation we think about male and female energy, but if we leave that blueprint to the side and just think about love and fear, maybe the white is love and the black is fear, but there’s always a little bit of love in the fear, there’s always a little bit of fear in the love, but the more we give our attention and our energy to consciously, again, consciously because the mind is going to a million of places, one moment we could be happy and disappointed the next, all coming out of our center of what the media tells us, what the world tells us, but we get to be a master of our time and space and decide and make a conscious choice. I know one of your taglines is, “For every choice there’s a consequence,” and it’s so intimately connected to this because the more I choose love, the more I choose things that are just being nice to myself, just being good and nurturing to myself. Well, I’m going to start having more of that in the environment of my internal mind, body, emotions and I’m going to be plugging into some more and more of that. So if a little bit of darkness comes, if a little bit of something comes to take me off my center, I’ve got so much love and light around me, I’m like, “I got this,” and it just rolls off.

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: If I go down, and get depressed, and my old issues come up, and I’m crying and I start to feed that, what we call the tar body, that old, those old grooves of pain, of sorrow, of hurt, and we sort of bring them back to life, then I can get suspended in that and then everything dark and I’ll become a magnet through the law of vibration for all those forces to then bring me down, but there’s always that little bit of light in there, like the yin-yang. It’s really the tipping point. What are we choosing with our thoughts, actions and words is going to help us keep us float or start to sink?

CHUCK: In your website, beautifully done by the way, but in your website there’s a picture that says, and I’m not sure if I can see this without my glasses, but it says, “It’s choice, not chance that determines your destiny.”


CHUCK: And I think that is so true, especially for people that are listening to Tuesday May Thomas and her book, Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. The issue is what do we choose, because what we choose creates the chance or the opportunity that creates our future and our destiny and you’re so on to the connection of, “If I wallow in the mud pit, I’m just going to be dirty,” versus deciding that I want to rise from that and embrace a different, more empowering opportunity and self. Now, you have a thing, you said this a minute ago, you said, “I’m a master of my time and space.” Tell me, before we go to our next break, what does that mean to you? I am a master of my time and space.

TUESDAY: To me it’s about a couple of things and to clarify, being a master of my time and space means that I am consciously co-creating my internal environment. I am aware that I can’t control the world, I can’t control what you’re going to do, what my partners are going to do if someone’s going to upset me, but I can co-create and be conscious in how I master my emotions, my responses, my thoughts, right? I can govern that environment because this is, the internal environment is where everything else is born. Again, it comes back to that dark and that light. If I’m going to choose from my center, from my highest consciousness that I am putting love, putting light in every word or every step I take, then by God, that is exactly what I’m going to co-create, right?

So no matter what my environment looks like, I can still maintain that piece of mind and that centering. I like to call it “heaven on Earth”. I have had experiences in this last year while finishing up with the book of really been released from all those tars and pain that have held me down for so long and stepping into really getting self-mastery of mastering the mind. Mastering the mind stuff has helped me to feel so free of the ties that bind on the Earth play that I’ve actually felt heaven on Earth. I feel like it’s really possible. I’ve had one foot in the earth and one foot on a heavenly realm, but I know it all starts in here with what I perceive from the inside out.

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: Because I’m choosing more and more love, love, light, light, light, I can’t help but just see that in my surroundings and I’m less inclined to judge things or to react negatively or to take all these old things and patterns of belief systems to be ignited and activated. I can move in the world and not be of it, but still be compassionate and feel human connection. It’s really powerful, master of time and space, being a master of that is like is deep because it connects with your past. If you’re still walking with all of your wounds from the past, you’re going to be hurt over and over again, as I was.

CHUCK: I’m hearing the music in the background which says, “It is time for a commercial break.” Talking about time and space and you also mentioned the tar body, so I tell you what, for those that are listening here, this is Tuesday May Thomas, Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice is her book. You can find it on or you can go to and find out all about Tuesday. We’re going to come back after this break. Thanks.

[Commercial break]

CHUCK: The book is Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice by Tuesday May Thomas. This is Chuck Gallagher with Straight Talk Radio and this has been a fascinating conversation as far. Tuesday, in the last segment I got this visual image that was incredibly disturbing, I’m sorry, which was what in the world would happen if every word I spoke was on a freaking whiteboard and at the end of the day I could look at it and then say, “Oh, crap!” I can’t say on the radio what I’d like to say or what comes to mind, but I imagine most people understand the idea, because as much as I think, unconscious of what I say, I wonder in the scope of a day how unconscious I might be and you and I both know there’s power in words.

TUESDAY: Absolutely, absolutely. The practice of being conscious and maybe that chalkboard or that whiteboard idea just brings to rise the ability to practice more awareness and to practice putting into words that we really wish to bring into our experience. I think we kind of get lazy with words. We’re still in an age, I think, where we are not appreciating the real potency and the power. Some people are really tactic and I think you were mentioning you have like a golden touch maybe, right? Sometimes we can say things and really they can come into manifestation quite instantly and that’s the picture, I know we’re going to get back the word thing here, but the picture of this grid of interconnected, invisible collective consciousness.

Imagine that every possibility exists there. Even though I’m not a scientist, I like to pretend, when I have a glass of wine, that I’m like channeling Einstein or Max Plank, and imagine that zero space that Plank talked about and if we go in deep that it’s like this causal realm where particles of light exist, but they are not in form and they’re coming into and out of creation. There’s nothing set yet, but it’s what we decide how we look at it that contributes to how it reflects back to us, right? So in that sense, as we learn to realize the value and the power of what we are putting in is a part of what we’re going to get back. That can help us to sort of erase and be clear about what we want to see on our chalkboard coming back to us in life.

Talking about words, I know during the break we were sharing, and it’s so funny because I had these ideas last night in bed and I had to get up and write them, but the power of words, you know, talking to a friend and they might say, “Don’t even tell me about that. That’s going to stress me out.” Or, “I can’t even talk about that because I’m going to get too sad.” Remember Kate Bush? Just saying it can even make it happen, remember that song? It was like she was tapped in. She knew something beyond.

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: I was giving you an example that the other day I was joking with a friend saying, “Oh, yeah, like an earthquake’s going to happen,” how she ran around the room touching every piece of wood she could to kind of undo the words that I said, and I was like, “Oh, there’s cool example.”

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: We don’t think about it, but we really do give a lot of weight to words.

CHUCK: Absolutely. It’s funny that you say that because if you contrast my wife and myself, both of us manifest. Now, on my end, I’m a comedian of sort so I’ll pull someone’s leg in a heartbeat and I’ve told my wife, “The cosmic spiritual universe knows that I’m full of you know what, so they know when I’m really kidding and there’s no power to it.” On her side, however, she must be surrounded with people that are like super serious. One day she said to me, “You know, I don’t know, I’m just kind of tired of this car,” and within 30 minutes she had totaled her automobile. Walked away from it, but totaled it. So I have, in many cases, told her, “Be careful what you say,” and if I say something she thinks, “Hmm, that’s not good,” she’ll say, “You need to cancel it. Cancel, cancel!” so that it takes it back because there is incredible power in what we say because it does tap us into the grid of potentiality and possibility.

TUESDAY: Absolutely, absolutely. Words hold weight. Words we share common language or many different languages and different cultures and we all share the feeling and some crisscross pollination of definition of what words have. When we speak them, we are plugging into whatever anyone else has put or pertained into that word, that consideration. I always like to think about that grid where it’s like a domino effect. There’s a law, as I talk about in the book, that is the highest good. Whenever we ask for something or wish to manifest or call in, that it’s always for the highest good of all. So we’re not forcing anyone or anything’s will, but we are getting clear about what it is we wish to experience and through that clarity of thought, of speech we activate the feeling realization and that begins to create the particles that magnetize, that creates the vibration within us begins to magnetize that and those particles of light in our reality to manifest and come into us whatever it is we wish in the right time and space, especially if we can keep ourselves detached and patient and trusting with that grace.

But your wife’s story just quickly it’s like my mom, she was, “Oh, I can’t. I’m too lazy. I haven’t been to the gym forever,” but she had been talking about it for six months, but the grids, the energy was waiting for her, her body. She was ready to start working out and she said, “Oh, my God! The first day I went back to the gym I lost 10 lbs!”

[Chuck and Tuesday chuckle]

TUESDAY: It’s like some things are just waiting for us to put our light on them so they can run energetically and come into being, whatever it is.

CHUCK: Now, I’ve got several questions and I don’t want us to run out of time. We’re in the third segment of our show here, but I like what you’ve said because it’s kind of like okay, there’s this grid, there’s energy in the grid, the question becomes, “Can we tap into it?” Okay? So, if we tap into the energy grid, talk to me about energy manipulation, because the word ‘manipulation’ as a word itself tends to have a negative connotation, not a positive one.

TUESDAY: Um-hm, um-hm. Well, let’s see. I know I have experienced a great amount of that in my life and I think basically manipulation is a teacher and as we step into our power and gain clarity of who we are and what we value within ourselves, our time, our space and learn self-love and self-respect, that light that we got within ourselves brings a light [33:03] that is that manipulation. It feels to me that manipulation people that operate through using manipulation are hungry. They have not maybe developed an awareness or an ability to create, to co-create with the universe of their own light, so perhaps they’re calling on different forces to use in order to manifest. Or, they might see a weakness in someone and use them in order to get what they want out of them because that individual hasn’t clicked into that level of fine tuning their own spiritual or psychic sort of hygiene or awareness and creating a sacred space for themselves. So it’s a good teacher, though, to learn by.

CHUCK: Now, it’s interesting you said something that I would like to tap into because I can envision a lot of people listening to this. You started off as a child in, I’m going to call it an abusive situation or potentially abusive situation, but somewhere you learned to find the truth of yourself and I’m not sure what the right word is, I’m searching for it right now, to create that forced field that goes around you to protect yourself, but yet in the manipulation comments you said, “Some people may not be that tuned to themselves and someone can find that entry way.” So, what could you offer the people who are listening to, think about, “Well, maybe I’m not completely tuned or I am energetically or psychically attacked so to speak”? How does one provide that protection?

TUESDAY: Yeah, we could do like probably 32 shows back to back–

[Chuck laughs]

TUESDAY: And talk about this, but I think some basic things to set up are anything that will allow you to be aligned with your higher self which is a meditation practice, a pranayama, a breathing practice, something that’s going to take you out of the world and bring you more into your sense of center. From there, all the senses become heightened and we are more attuned to becoming sort of like a tuning rod and your intuition and your gut is always talking to you, you’re always getting information and the internal, discerning the internal from the external is so important. So those little practices to bring you into center so you can really feel what feels right to you, what feels appropriate to you, but we don’t always know – and that’s okay! We can’t beat ourselves up, right? But we have to go with what is the most in tune with self-love. What really serves me? What doesn’t serve me?

On the flipside of that, we’re not always ready to meditate every day or every moment. What I like is the white wall of fire. Imagine creating a ring of light, a radius about 2 or 3 ft all the way around you and just boom, just make it so, imagine it, put it in place. From that ring of light shoots up like a castle of white flaming stones, like imagine just a huge castle within that radius that shoots up and white wall of fire burns all around you allowing you to be with absolute clarity. Burns away and [36:13] of illusion.

Sometimes people that are manipulators are sheisty, they know what to say, they know how to say it. Maybe they can see your weaknesses that you are revealing that you are not aware. We’re vulnerable at times, we’re humans, at times we’re up or down and that might be the way they get in. I know sometimes I’ve just been lonely and looking for a friend so I might open myself up too much too soon in a friendship and then feel like, “Oh, man, that wasn’t… Now I realize they’re not going to value or respect what I’ve shared. It’s too late,” but you can’t beat yourself up. You know what I like to do as well? It’s to go back in time if you feel that has ever happened, erase it on your board of your memories. Erase it and put love there.

CHUCK: Oh, that’s powerful. That is very powerful.

TUESDAY: It’s simple and it’s probably the one that’s the easiest to remember but you erase it and you put love there because as long as it’s in your environment, in your mind, in your heart, in your emotional wiring, if you keep perceiving that you’ve been threaten, that you’ve been hurt, that’s going to keep firing up and you’re going to live in that stress and that shrinkage, versus the expansion and the relaxing and your power being a master of your time and space. If you can put love there over and over and over again, that love is going to be those stepping stones. It’s going to allow you to reside in your grace, in your calm, in your piece, and in your truth, which is like people pay millions of dollars trying to find that, right?

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: It’s like this, what is it? How do I find it? Well, it’s already in there. If we can just settle down, take a breath and practice self-love and be conscious of where we’re putting our energy. We were talking about this, where you put your energy is what you’re going to get back.

CHUCK: My guest is Tuesday May Thomas. She says, “I am a master of my time and space,” and I think for those of you that have been listening, you can understand why that is and many, many valuable insights that we get here on Straight Talk Radio. Her book is Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. It’s available on Amazon. I highly encourage you to pick it up. We’ll be back talking a little bit more about personal power and a multitude of things in our last segment. Stick with us.

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CHUCK: This is Chuck Gallagher with Straight Talk Radio. It’s Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice by Tuesday May Thomas. For those of you that might be seeing this on video, here is a copy of her book. It’s got a really cool cover, but more important than that is the incredible content. I have had the opportunity to read this book and, Tuesday, one of the things that really struck me is, and I’ll tell you why in just a second, but it really struck me that you were keeping a journal and apparently have done this for some period of time. I really understand the power of that. For the people that listen on the radio show I wrote a book called Second Chances and a good portion of that book came from a journal that I kept while I was in federal prison. It was a cathartic experience to keep the journal, but more importantly it kept me connected with what was happening as it was happening, knowing that there was some value, I just couldn’t put my finger on what at the time. Talk a little bit about your life in journaling and how that kind of transformed the creation of this book.

TUESDAY: Hm, I think it’s so potent as a means to express. We have so many feelings and emotions and experiences that impress upon us and an infinitude of colors. Kept inside, depending on what these feelings or emotions are, they can really fester and turn into darkness and make us turn into darkness, but if we give it a voice, even if we can’t find a physical voice in our own privacy to give a rise and a release to the information and the expression of the feelings that we have in ourselves, it’s actually a healing. Every time I open a journal whether I write– I say in my book that writing in a journal is a different voice for me, then sometimes I have a Dictaphone and I’ll speak out loud in journal, and that’s a different voice coming through. If I’m writing on a computer, it’s a different voice. But allow that voice, all the different voices to have their own expression. It’s cathartic, it’s a healing, as you say, and I think that in itself has been a thread. I still do it to this day. I have boxes of journals here that I’ll dip in and out of over time. You get to see your growth. You get to go back and say, “Wow! This is where I’ve come from. This is such an amazing mountain I’ve climbed.” We all have such an intricate past and everything is relative, you know?

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: Hurt and pain, hardships…

CHUCK: It’s interesting as you say that, with the idea of a journal, and for those that are listening, I have to really say, I do strongly encourage that because in our lives, those of us that are visual, I’m a photographer so I’m always taking pictures. Of course, in the old days when it was filmed, there was a cost to it and then you had to develop it and now it’s digital. You stick a memory card in and you can erase it. If I’m around, especially grandkids, it’s like snappity-snap-snap. They think I’m paparazzi. Maybe that should be my grandfather name. I haven’t thought of that till now.

[Tuesday laughs]

CHUCK: But the pictures are captured, which show that development of our lives visually, but emotionally, the journal creates that expression of our lives at a deeper level and that really is very powerful.

TUESDAY: Oh, yeah. I mean, it’s so secret, you know. When I was little, I had a diary that had a lock on it and I would hide the key. It’s like that place where you can, if you trust it enough, because even sometimes I write in code because I’m like, “Someone is going to read it,” because that was a part of my being betrayed when I was a kid was like I had no privacy. I didn’t feel like I had anything that I could keep sacred so I developed this code, but even still, if you could let yourself really let go and release that stuff, [exhales] how clear and how much lighter you feel from release. It’s really a powerful, powerful thing. I encourage, I tell you it has saved my life. It has helped me put my thoughts into order, it has helped me have reflection by taking a step away and releasing, giving that stuff a place to go other than festering and being inside here, especially if you can’t find a voice to say it. Well, say it to spirit, give it to God or whatever that is for you and let it have a means to release itself from you.

CHUCK: Now, one of the things, and I want to do this before we run out of time because it always seems to go so much faster than I’m accustomed to or want to believe, but you’ve talked a couple of times about a tar body. What’s a tar body and how is that relevant to our listeners?

TUESDAY: Okay. Tar body, imagine every hurt feeling, every painful experience you’ve ever gone through, imagine every glass of wine, or a joint you’ve smoked, or every drug, whether it’s a medication or otherwise that you’ve ever taken, imagine environmental pollutions, all the residual stuff that our kidneys, our liver, our body has to process in order for us to just stay healthy. Imagine that magnitude of stuff, the residual toxins in that, but then even more than that, then there’s the emotional aspect of what we’ve perceived of being hurt and the pain that we store inside of ourselves and I have something written here. Oh, my Gosh, I want to read it really quick. Okay, so, “Your pain is your fear and you have experiences that you perceive as hurtful and that hurt turns into pain and if it’s unattended, that pain turns into fear and that fear ends up driving our lives,” and that fear is the tar body. Imagine there’s the light body and the tar body. The light body is attuned with, I’d like to say our mastery, it’s like a blueprint of self-mastery and higher self, whereas the tar body is the exact opposite of that.

Now again, that tipping point, if we feed our tar body too much and give into negative thoughts, self-hate, self-doubt, worry, being skeptical about life in the world, feeling the world is out to get us, we’re going to feed that tar body, and if we feed it enough, I feel like it activates and it literally becomes this body of tar, of toxins and the more down we get, “Oh, I’ll just have another wine, I’ll just…” like if you don’t care and everything is just going downhill and that tar body festers off of self-hate, self-doubt, self-loathing. But if we turn the tide, there’s always that love, even in the depths of darkness and if we can choose that love, that light, I like to say starve the tar body, feed the light body. Right? Because if we give enough energy to the tar body, that is what ends up being our navigational force. Through fear, through the lenses of fear, to the lenses of limitation, to the lenses of worry, self hate, stress, whatever all that stuff is guilt, shame, worry, that’s going to be everything in our life, then that tar body is going to begin to become a magnet for more of itself. The relationships we draw in the opportunities that we’re seeking. We’re going to always have that dingy stain of that tar. It’s going to continually reflect back to us what our words are saying, where we’re putting our beliefs, our energy and attention if it’s like, “I’m no good. Nothing good ever happens to me. I can’t be loved. I’m totally unloveable,” or whatever it is, sure, the tar body is going to make sure you’re feeding it that information. It’s going to make sure that it’s going to steer you and because your will is weak, you’re not aligned with your higher self to hear maybe the other path calling. You’re going to say, “Okay, I’m going to go with the tar body. Oh, you see? I got messed over again! Oh, you see? It happened again.”

CHUCK: Right.

TUESDAY: But it can branch up and have that courage to take those little baby steps of self-acceptance and exploring self-love and even if it’s just that little baby step at a time, again that tipping point, would begin to surround ourselves more and more with that love, activate that within and that love and that light opens the way then for us to take the next step through the light body, through that higher self that we already are.

CHUCK: You know, it’s kind of interesting, as I hear you say that, there’s a certain level of frustration that just hit me and I’ll tell you what that’s about and it has nothing to do with you. You were right on, but I remember when the book The Secret came out, talking about the law of attraction. It was highly successful.


CHUCK: The frustration is as it seemed to focus so much on the law of attraction for physical monetary manifestation and the reality is we manifest everything around us every day. The problem becomes, you really nailed it so well, if I feed the tar body, the tar body is going to continue to get mired in the tar, in the muck. Then people are like, “Well, I just don’t have any luck. This is just the way my life is.” Yeah, because that’s what you’re speaking because you’re feeding it and the law of attraction is working perfectly. You’re just looking at it backwards from where it could be. I think, you would agree with this, all of us are really our light selves. We might be in human form, which is far denser from an energy perspective, but we really are our light selves.

Now, I hear the music playing which says, “Gosh, this program is coming to an end,” but before we finish up, first thing I want to say, congratulations, Tuesday, on a wonderful book. The book is Confessions of a Spiritual Apprentice. It’s available on You are a wonderful guest and I am so thrilled by reading your book and seeing all of the many things that we’ve just touched the surface on that are in this very deep book that brings light to many folks that might find themselves stuck in the tar body and a little bit in darkness. There is a light and you have brought that.

If you want to know more about Tuesday May Thomas, one, you can go to her website, It’s a really cool website. You’ll learn some things. Tuesday, I am not a yoga person, but after watching some of your videos, I’m thinking to myself, “I probably should be.”

[Tuesday chuckles]

CHUCK: With all that said, for those of you that are listening to the show, this is Chuck Gallagher with Straight Talk Radio. Tuesday May Thomas says, “I am a master of my time and space. You can be as well.” Tune in next week for more information on Straight Talk Radio and thank you for joining us.

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